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Saturday, April 19, 2008

Who's watching the store? OR A Bridge between them?

I had never heard of 24-hour, no-frills, unstaffed health clubs before this morning. I suppose I can see possible problems. After all, seeing possible problems is something I seem to have a knack for. And, according to at least one Administrative Law Judge, present city code does require that staff be on premises at all times.

If I read this morning’s newspaper story correctly, David Thune, current and past councilmember from City Council District [often called “Ward”] Two is against them and wants the law to stay the way the ALJ is interpreting it. I am surmising that if the ALJ opinion is not upheld that he would want an ordinance adopted to require that they be staffed whenever they are open.

Another former councilmember from that same district, Mayor Coleman the Second, is quoted in the DPP as saying, "It can't be OK everywhere else and be somehow more risky in St. [sic] Paul." [Note to the Mayor’s fans, of whom there must be some: “Sic” is inserted because that is what is done here at CCM when we find the name of our city unnecessarily abbreviated. However, I suspect that His Honor made the statement orally and it is just the paper’s defective, penny-pinching style sheet which instituted the abbreviation. So save the letters, or at least send them on other things.]

This is quite a choice, having to choose between these two men, who usually seem to only be separated by the High Bridge.

It has been traditional in our culture to recognize that problems are possible in a lot of businesses and to adopt codes to protect the public from unscrupulous or incompetent operators. We license, charter, or regulate restaurants and bars, building contractors, motor vehicles and drivers, pawn shops, utilities, and scores of other things.

Sometimes [probably most of the time] we regulate well or at least “pretty good”. Other times we fail. And sometimes we forget why we license and legislate or enforce from outdated models.

Old timers may remember [probably 25 or 30 years ago] when Sister Rosalind wanted to open her first massage center in the city. She had to face a lot of legislative hostility because we had several places which had been known as “massage parlors” in town which had been serving as fronts for prostitution and for whom the city had adopted some drastic regulations. [Regulations don’t always work as they are intended. By the time Sister Rosalind was applying for her licenses, all or almost all of the former “massage parlors” had quit offering massages and were no longer affected by them. They were still open, just weren’t “massage parlors” anymore.]

I sometimes have wondered if her fight might have been too difficult to pursue had she not been a middle-aged Catholic nun, but she got changes made after telling our city leaders that she resented the proposition that she and her employees were in the prostitution business and were entitled for more dignified treatment. Ordinances were altered, but they still worked from the anti-prostitution perspective for several more years, including requiring that masseur/masseuse licenses be issued by the City Council and that the licensee’s name be on the City Council agenda and minutes.

And I would be remiss if I forget to mention that having regulations guarantees the public that they will be enforced. For one thing, government bureaucrats seem to find it easier to hassle those with licenses than those who operate without them. Any licensed taxicab driver or owner in our city knows that

Thune says that the new style health clubs present a neighborhood issue and threatens to enlist the support of neighborhood organizations, especially District Councils. Maybe he will indeed get such help, but I suspect that while they may give him some lip service that most neighborhood organizations are already so deeply committed to fighting more obvious crime and the decay in our housing situations and developing stable business and social environments to jump on that bandwagon really hard.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well, I don’t see how they could become prostitution fronts since no staff is there to sell such services, but I do wonder if there might be safety concerns with people exerting themselves and nobody present to help.

And I suppose that there are also the risks of member on member problems escalating.


Midway Barb

Anonymous said...

The phoney health clubs of the earlier day were fronts for prostitution. At least that's what they said. And based on the number of busts made at a lot of those places, they probably were right. It was staff people offering extra services that got busted.

So if there are no staff people, who is making the deal?

I think that Thune really is thinking more of the bath houses that Minnepolis used to have which allegedly became places for gays to get together.

But Thune probably is afraid to admit this.

It is a shame that this is the case because I suppose that might become a public health concern sometime and nobody there supports "public health" like Dave. But I would be willing to wait and see first since they have these places all over everywhere else and nobody else seems to have a problem.

I have a bad heart. I wouldn't go there because I would be afraid of what might happen to me and am willing to pay Lifetime for the presence of staff which I hope is adequately trained.

But somebody healthier might find one of these places a good enough choice.

Kenneth

Anonymous said...

I think I understand at least part of why Thune and Chris Coleman [and can’t you just call him Chris Coleman or Mayor Coleman instead of Mayor Coleman the Second] differ on this. I think we all do, really.

A councilmember’s job is to protect his/her neighborhoods and West Seventh in particular has hosted some bad neighbors.

Somehow it seems to become part of the mayor’s job to protect the business climate. This has been true even when such unabashed liberals like Latimer and Cohen were mayor.

Mayors need to make sure that cities are flexible enough to accept new business models. Councilmembers need to make sure that unsatisfactory businesses, new or old, do not locate near their voters.

I haven’t spoke to either Chris or Dave on this and they might not be totally candid if asked about this assessment, but I suspect that deep down they understand it.

Cherokee Park lawyer

R Sammons said...

Cherokee Park Lawyer is right. We all know that Councilmembers and Mayors serve different purposes and different interests, but we sometimes allow ourselves to be diverted.

I still think I am siding more with the mayor than with Thune on this one, but I still wonder why nobody in other cities across the country has ever been killed by the consequences of overexertion when nobody was present to help.

Anonymous said...

This is really one of the best series of posts you have had on this blog. Pretty much on topic and pretty much each one amplifying the one before, yet managing to keep enough personal tang in the writing to show that this is indeed a citizen blog and not a newspaper.

I too suspect that Mayor Chris is right on this, but I would like to hear what some MD’s and other health people have to say.

Marilyn
Payne Arcade

Anonymous said...

Non-productive people have kept non-productive jobs in a lot of businesses because of government or union rules that they be kept around. Even though it seems wasteful, there are more people paying income taxes who just might do something good.

A government rule that health clubs maintain staff which may not be always productive but which might save a life sometime might not be so bad.